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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Actually my post #124 goes directly to something that will likely influence the yardstick the non US based mods will apply to posters. I was apologizing for my post #126 which did careen off on a tangent.
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Oops. I apologize. (P.S., interesting quote you sig with from Shaw, a Fabian Society member.)
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    A huge problem is Communist dictators label their system of governance as Socialist, and their subjugated citizens believe it. Frequently that system started as a Socialist system as a chrysalis phase before it emerged as fully Communist. Socialism is usually used as the "camel's nose" to gain...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    And I suspect individual political threads within the NPB will reflect the flavor of that country’s politics. For predominantly socialist countries where the politics occur on the left side of the slope I'd expect pretty benign debates since the outcome is simply a change in speed of social...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Lets see, we're posting on a website created by a naturalized United States citizen, on a network initially designed by a United States based company, which its development was paid for by United States taxpayers. And non US folks demanding to establish the rules of the road. That's the very...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    This is probably due to the fundamental differences between the independence of US citizens vs the socialist cultures of so many other countries (and some institutions within the US). So many conservative US citizens are used to being assertive to get things accomplished. We leverage our...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Devin's post reminded me of a thought I forgot about. People keep complaining and wanting to drain the swamp and prevent it from occurring again. They're forgetting swamps have a place in the biosphere, even Dim's. They're a transition region that allow for the natural cleansing and filtering...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    It's not that civil behavior is being objected to. It's that we're objecting to what is being portrayed as "civil" behavior by the mods if they are also participants in a discussion. Another sticking point is what's possibly to be considered as an "untrustworthy news source". The biggest...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Unfortunately those topics and issues align along the classic dividing lines of liberal vs conservative. It is an unavoidable "us vs them" construct for those that have never been part of the other camp. The best you can hope to do is moderate participants based on engaging in personal attacks...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    This will eventually be the biggest cause of conflict on the NPB, determining what is fake news or false facts. It will exclude almost all current events discussions since it can take years before all the information gets validated. With the recent decade of having mainstream news reporters...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    In any debate there are at least two sides on the issue being debated. People will naturally align themselves with their views on the sides of the issues, thereby creating the "teams" you disavow. It sounds like the NPB is to be less of a board for debate than a tea room where people should just...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Ever since "observation" was the first step in the scientific method. Afterwards it becomes an issue of validation of those observations to determine the outliers to be questioned. In the case of eye-witnesses, it may turn out the witness had a poor sightline, was distracted, or changed their...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Regarding the mods participating in the discussion: Then we have a major problem right at the outset. Unlike all the other boards, the NPB is always going to have a core basis of conflict, We're basically pitting two debate teams against each other, but the debate moderators are from only one...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Make that "members and mods" and I'd agree. But that's supposed to be addressed already by some new approach. (Like mods not posting/participating in a thread?)
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    In post #1 of this thread that you posted, "Draft Rules", "in Board Practice this means", second bullet: "Faking data or quotes or establishing fake correlations is outlawed. (emphasis added, HereticFA) For example: Some things are universally acknowledged – like 197 countries set up the...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    And that is one of the core problems nowadays. Our various science disciplines either lack the rigor of previous decades, are addressing ever larger issues that exceed past scientific methodologies, or are being used as a tool to further goals other than pure science. Without the ability to...
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    Rules for The Soap Box

    Since so many immediately hit you with personal attacks instead of addressing your question, I'll respond. Based on these that rule, any discussion of fat acceptance would be "outlawed" if the rule is followed as written. The philosophy is known as the tyranny of the majority. A minority...
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    Fashion industry as sizeist as ever

    Interesting article on the mainstream fashion industry and their ongoing rejection of "plus" sizes. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/people/fashion-industry-sizeist-ever-ashley-graham-cover-vogue-isnt/
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    Do you want a new political board?

    Can you point me to that passage in the California Code? The only references I could find were regarding the University of California Speech Codes. Hopefully Dims doesn't reside on a UC server. If the mods are honestly that concerned about legal issues, especially the numerous international...
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    Teen commits suicide due to cyberbullying over her weight

    Today's bullies have so much more power than 40 to 50 years ago. Most Boomers and Gen-X'ers don't understand the massive power available to kids today. I'm thankful I grew up when I did in the 60's and I "only" had to worry about getting regular beatings because of my weight. At least I knew who...
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