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Vince

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Well, Conrad, it wasn't long ago that you asked for suggestions re making things better for the fat people. There have been a few intelligent people who have suggested changes but I doubt anyone listened. Fat people have health concerns. No one can deny this. Many who post on this board or who are active in size acceptance often hide or diminish their health problems. Most would love to believe that one can be supersized and healthy. Doctors would wonder for how long. Eventually huge size and weight will take its toll on fat people. If you are ever lying down beside a really large person then listen to them breathe. They need a lot of oxygen to supply that mass and therefore have to breathe at a more rapid rate than thinner people.

I well remember when one supersized activist asked me to get a bag of pills from the bathroom for her. Well, I looked where she told me and fetched a brown bag with perhaps 20 different boxes of various pills inside it. She had a look and couldn't find what she was looking for and realized I had brought the wrong bag! There were two bags of pills that she needed. I mean, I use the occasional headache tablet and that is all. Maybe a couple of those pills a month. That is it. When I see so-called healthy fat women hiding the fact that they have diabetes and high blood pressure then I know they are trying to appear that they, too, can be large and healthy. In most cases that is a lie. Sooner rather than later really large people will have several health issues. They already have fitness and mobility issues.

If what I say is true then why haven't the fat members of this board an opportunity to discuss the various issues concerning weightloss, fitness and health? In the thread "Losing Weight" there is healthy debate about this very issue. Many feel they need a place where they can discuss these issues. You have kindly provided a WLS forum even though you are personally against it in most cases. I feel the time has come for fat acceptance to show some maturity and recognize that it is not a sin to want to be healthy and change body composition. Those who do not want to read such discussions need not frequent that forum.

I am not telling you how to run your site. I think you have done a very somewhat thankless job in providing the site and the resources that go along with it. I just think it is time to consider some of the policies that should have been debated in NAAFA but for some reason remained the foundation basis of the organization.

There are many who have beliefs about a life after death. Those hopes are some of the forces that see many believing in various religions. However, to believe in some of the fat acceptance dogma is not a choice about fantasy and hope. Those beliefs can have very bad consquences for fat people. Ruby is an example of what I am talking about. She used to weigh over 100 pounds more than she does now. Well, assuming she still is about the same weight as she was in 2000 when I was at your home. Tina and others have lost some weight and are more mobile and healthy as a result. I just cannot see why we as friends of fat people cannot assist them in every way we can. My expertise is exercise and I would be glad to assist fat people. Others arrive here from time to time with other things they can contribute. I think we can forge ahead and make things better for fat people. To suggest that there is little or nothing that can be done if one is large is plainly false. As fat people get larger they have even less options about what they can do to change their fitness and health levels.

If you have read the WLS board then I believe that CC's example is a warning call to all of us. I do not like to read how much she is suffering and how awful her life is to her. We have to do something and not perpetuate lies and other nonsense that can damage the very people we care so much about.
 

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