I was de-railing someones thred so i'm going to put this out here..
What is fat?
Because i really think it is a whole lot more than something meerly physical.
what are your ideas?
here is something i posted..
What i was trying to say is that there are many different levels to being fat. If 'fat' was just a physical concept then it would only stop people doing things that they psysically were unable to do. This would make it a 'disablement' and which if you subscribe to the social model of disability would mean that in fact it was societies fault for failing to include everyone. So perhaps 'Fat' is never actually a psysical thing and is actually conceptual.
Anyway, how come a thin person who has never been fat can not get away with saying they are fat, when a fat person who has never been thin can say they are 'a thin person trapped in a fat body' and everyone agrees?.
Actually though..CLINICALLY....CLINICALLY..i am classed as 'obese'. This is the physical me. Though i dont subscribe to this. Physically i am thin. To me, externally.
What i'm getting at, is that there is more to 'fat' than the physical. People who lose weight through surgery etc can still feel like a fat person. Someone with body dysmorphia might believe they are fat. Someone who i think is thin might be deemed fat in other countries, time periods, social circles.
So what is Fat?
If you can define an all encompassing definition, then perhaps we can begin to discuss the ideas that surround it. It means different things to different people, it is subjective and not just physical.
So why cant you take on board me being a fat person?
Would you say the same about a transgendered person who KNEW within themselves they were female even though they had a cock and no tits and genetically they were xy?
What makes fat any different?
You might say, well you cannot properly know the struggles a fat person has to go through so why become fat and i might say the same to a male to female transexual about the struggles of being a woman.
To be honest i'm just throwing ideas into the pot here, because i know there is more to Fat than meets the eye.
mer
What is fat?
Because i really think it is a whole lot more than something meerly physical.
what are your ideas?
here is something i posted..
What i was trying to say is that there are many different levels to being fat. If 'fat' was just a physical concept then it would only stop people doing things that they psysically were unable to do. This would make it a 'disablement' and which if you subscribe to the social model of disability would mean that in fact it was societies fault for failing to include everyone. So perhaps 'Fat' is never actually a psysical thing and is actually conceptual.
Anyway, how come a thin person who has never been fat can not get away with saying they are fat, when a fat person who has never been thin can say they are 'a thin person trapped in a fat body' and everyone agrees?.
Actually though..CLINICALLY....CLINICALLY..i am classed as 'obese'. This is the physical me. Though i dont subscribe to this. Physically i am thin. To me, externally.
What i'm getting at, is that there is more to 'fat' than the physical. People who lose weight through surgery etc can still feel like a fat person. Someone with body dysmorphia might believe they are fat. Someone who i think is thin might be deemed fat in other countries, time periods, social circles.
So what is Fat?
If you can define an all encompassing definition, then perhaps we can begin to discuss the ideas that surround it. It means different things to different people, it is subjective and not just physical.
So why cant you take on board me being a fat person?
Would you say the same about a transgendered person who KNEW within themselves they were female even though they had a cock and no tits and genetically they were xy?
What makes fat any different?
You might say, well you cannot properly know the struggles a fat person has to go through so why become fat and i might say the same to a male to female transexual about the struggles of being a woman.
To be honest i'm just throwing ideas into the pot here, because i know there is more to Fat than meets the eye.
mer
