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Hanoi Jane: Fact or Fiction?

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Green Eyed Fairy

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This is an email forwarded to me. Having been born in 1968, I'm apparently one of those "too young" people that is referred to in this copy of that email.
I will admit that many years ago I heard Jane Fonda referenced as Hanoi Jane and asked my Mom what it meant. She said that Jane was unliked by some for her stance during the Vietnam War.
As a teen, it seemed like a part of history that no one talked about much anymore and, to be honest, I liked her as an actress. And, let's not forget all the exercise videos that were extremely popular once upon a time (it's own piece of ancient history?)

Reading this email, I was disturbed. I am a"middle of the road" type of Democrat who does not support war but has always supported the troops.

I am suspicious of the content because....I have received a lot of right wing propaganda email in the past and typically just blow it off- it is what it is- just as I have also found myself rolling my eyes at websites with too much of an hysterical type liberal spin.

Those who are older, or simply more knowledgeable of this topic, whatcha think? Did she really do all those things being said in that email?

(Of course, others are also invited to comment :D )

Below the email quoted below, is another quote of the radio broadcast mentioned in the email and I think the photo mentioned there, too.

BOYCOTT THE MOVIE "THE BUTLER "
Never forget what this miserable woman did and the pain and suffering she caused.


THE MOVIE "THE BUTLER IS BEING SHOT IN NEW ORLEANS .
THE TRAITOR JANE FONDA PLAYS NANCY REAGAN.
AS AN AMERICAN I CAN NEVER FORGIVE JANE FONDA FOR HER ACTIONS IN VIETNAM .
MANY AMERICANS DIED IN THAT WAR AND FOR HER TO CALL AMERICANS SERVICE PEOPLE WARMONGERS IS UNFORGIVABLE TO ME.

CAN STILL REMEMBER PICTURES OF HER IN HANOI SITTING ON A NORTH VIETNAMESE
ANTIAIRCRAFT GUN PRETENDING TO SHOOT DOWN AN AMERICAN PLANE.

I hope all people, young and old know this...
IF not please read all of this message.
In "my time" it was fairly well known what she did, but over time it seems to have been forgotten or lost in time...
Otherwise she never should be asked to perform in any capacity !

Ronald Reagan would be rolling over in his grave!
JANE FONDA AS NANCY REAGAN
This cannot go around too much.
Those of us that were living in those years will never forget
That she was a traitor and did a lot of damage to our boys..
She has now been chosen to play Nancy Reagan in her life story.
I am sending this one out because so many do not know this truth...
And also because she was on 3 times this week talking about her new book...
And how good she feels in her 70's...
She still does not know what she did wrong...
Her book just may not make the best list if more people knew...
Also....
Barbara Walters said:
Thank you all. Many died in Vietnam for our freedoms.
I did not like Jane Fonda then and I don't like her now.
She can lead her present life the way she wants
And perhaps SHE can forget the past,
But we DO NOT have to stand by without comment
And see her "honored" as a "Woman of the Century".
(I remember this well)
\\
For those who served and/or died. . .
NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!
And now President OBAMA wants to honor her!
In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton
[Famous North Vietnam Prison]
IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS
SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!
A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and didn't
have to
bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the '100 Women of the Century.'
BARBARA WALTERS WRITES:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how
Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and
sacrificed during the Vietnam War.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ' Hanoi Hilton.' Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in
clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient
and humane treatment' he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent
beating,
he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the '
Hanoi Hilton'...the first three of which his family only knew he was 'missing in action'. His
wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed
routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were
alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the
line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you
sorry
you bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent
captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera
stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper...
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day..
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the
North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5
years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a
female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal
weight is 170 lbs)
We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals...'
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if
I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North
Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient'.
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms
outstretched
with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if
she
would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part
of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of Great Women' should
never
include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you
possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we
will
never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance


PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF
ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE.



Radio Broadcast Transcript
Hanoi Jane's Propaganda Radio Broadcast
This is a transcript of the propaganda radio broadcast Hanoi Jane Fonda delivered in North Vietnam on August 22, 1972 -- Hanoi.

The following was submitted in the U.S. Congress House Committee on Internal Security, Travel to Hostile Areas. [HR16742, 19-25 September 1972, page 761]

[Broadcast]

This is Jane Fonda.

During my two week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I've had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life- workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women's union, writers.

I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.

In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller's play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me- the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country.

I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam- these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters.

I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets- schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system.

As I left the United States two weeks ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the war, but in the rubble- strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly- and I pressed my cheek against hers- I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is America's.

One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I've been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he'll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo- colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist. I've spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.

But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created- being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools- the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.

And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders- and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism- I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh.


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